"There is no art that teaches us to know the temper, mind or spirit of any man until he has been proved by government and lawgiving." (Creon's proclamation of the edict)
"But it is those that are most obstinate suffer the greatest fall." (Creon at Antigone's arrest)
"You shall not marry her this side of the grave!" (creon to Haimon)
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By "proved", do you mean that his existence and ability have been acknowledged, or do you mean defined and examined?
The second quote is ironic because in the end, it was Creon that was being obsitnate, not Antigone. And just as he predicted, he did suffer the greatest fall through losing his family and the admiration of those he ruled.
"There is no art that teaches us to know the temper, mind or spirit of any man until he has been proved by government and lawgiving."
Creon is trying to say that a man is not truly known (character, principles, sense of judgment) until he has shown his true colors by ruling the people and making laws.
How is this statement that Creon made ironic?
Thank you. I was thinking of courts and trials.
The statement is ironic because Creon's true colors were shown, but they were not good colors. In the end, Creon was shown as a man who was quick to blame and accuse (made obvious when he "shot the messenger"), a man that valued individual pride over family and religion (he sentenced his own son's fiance to death for disobeying him, and he ignored the wishes of the gods because he'd rather do what he wanted).
In his defense though, Creon forbade the burial of Polynices not because he was a personal enemy of Creon, but because he was an enemy for the state. So even though he went against the gods, he did so for a near-decent reason.
"You shall not marry her this side of the grave!" (creon to Haimon)
This quote is ironic because Haimon would later kill himself so he could be with his beloved Antigone. He tried to tell his father that if she died he would as well, but he would not listen. In the end Haimon and Antigone were together in the afterlife, just like Creon had said.
"But it is those that are most obstinate suffer the greatest fall." (Creon at Antigone's arrest)
When Creon said this to Antigone, he was so blinded by pride to see that it would be his own actions that would cause him to suffer the most. It is ironic that Creon even thought that Antigone was being obstinate, when it was he who created the unjust law in the first place. However, in the end the most obstinate did suffer the greatest fall- the fall from power.
"You shall not marry her this side of the grave!" (Creon to Haemon)
This quote is ironic because Haemon ended up killing himself after Antigone's death. In the end, they were together, perhaps to be married whilst dead though death is just another life. Creon was forbidding Haemon to marry her and with that he lost his son.
"You shall not marry her this side of the grave!" (creon to Haimon)
Creon, the father of Haimon and King of Thebes, would not allow his son to marry Antigone. Creon believed that Antigone was a traitor since she disobeyed him and his law. She then killed herself while she was held in a cave for her crime. Haimon found out about her suicide and ended up killing himself to join his love on the other side of the grave.
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