Friday, August 7, 2009

Antigone #8

Civil disobedience is wrong.

Argue the validity of this statement. Remember to use logic and reason, not emotions.

9 comments:

Antrim said...

Civil disobedience is not always wrong. Civil disobedience is defined as, "a refusal to obey governmental demands or commands." Often times, the government has very fair and morally right "demands", such as demanding that fines be paid for littering and speeding, both of which lower the standards of living and often endager the lives of those who did nothing wrong. However, the government cannot always be right, being run by humans as it is. Therefore, when someone engages in civil disobedience against an unfair law, the committed action may not be a morally offensive action. For example, in Antigone, had Creon mpt forbidden the burial of Antigone's broter, noone would have minded that Antigone had buried him. It would have been expected. But, because of what the king had decreed as "right" and "wrong", what had once been accepted as a moral obligation had been declared a crime. But did that really change the fact that the burial was a moral deed? No, it had only labeled by a different name. So just as "a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet", a morally right action labeled as a crime is not necessarily any less right or moral.

Antrim said...

typos: mpt is supposed to be not, and I meant to say: "No, it had only been labeled..." sorry for any confusion.

Bryanna D said...

Civil disobedience is defined as doing what the government tells you is right. Since a king is only human, it is very likely he has a rule or law that is unfair. For example, Creon states that no one is allowed to bury Polynices for Creon believes he is a traitor. The moral thing for any person back in that time to do was bury the dead so they can pass on to the afterlife. By refusing Polynices burial and giving his brother Eteocles all military honors he is commanding the people to break the god's law and what is morally right. This shows that sometimes civil disopedience is right, depending on the situation.

Derek Phillips said...

Civil disobedience could be wrong however depending on the situation or circumstance it could also be justifiable. According to Webster's Dictionary, civil disobedience is defined as "refusal to obey governmental demands or commands especially as a nonviolent and usually collective means of forcing concessions from the government." For example, if the government or hierarchy is corrupt, the idea of what is right in their eyes is not always right in the eyes of the average civilian. For those who disagree with the views and laws of the government civil disobedience can be used as a way to express their opinion. In a truly democratic nation civil disobedience is most often seen in the form of non-violent protests. Mohandas Gandhi demonstrated many forms of protests. These included peace marches, sit-ins, and non-cooperation. Antigone showed her civil disobedience in the form of ignoring the king’s edict and burying her brother as she felt it was right to do. Although in many situations civil disobedience is wrong, it must be done in certain situations to maintain peace and balance.

Lane Simpson said...

Civil disobedience is not always wrong. Although most of the time it is wrong because most of the governments are fair and just, because it is run by humans they can sometimes be wrong. civil disobedience is only wrong in the eyes of the established order. because it is a refusal to follow a govt command,it can not always be wrong. the command could be totally rediculous. so therefore it could be a wrong in the eyes of a terrible king or queen, but it can be morally right.

Cookiemonstah said...

Civil disobedience is not wrong. Disobedience from the populace always happens for a reason and usually the same reason, the people are not happy with their treatment from the government. The Government and the People are almost always on different ends of a rope. If all is going well and the people find they are content, the government end of the rope will be leading and the people end will be following close behind. As the People end grows unhappy, it will follow at an increasing distance behind the government and eventually stop altogether. When the People stop, that's when civil disobedience rears it head among the crowd. Or if the Government end gives a jerk or harsh tug on the rope, and the People feels it undeserved, they are likely to stop, fight back, or even back up. There again is civil disobedience. Civil disobedience cannot be defined as wrong or right. It is simply a form of communication.

Ryan said...

Civil disobedience is not necessarily always wrong. Often, it depends on the degree of the disobedience. Most people are disobedient to one degree or another. The times where civil disobedience can be accepted are when laws are unfair or leaders are unfair. At times like those civil disobedience is a must. However, if there is no cause behind it, and it disobedience for the sake of disobedience then it is wrong.

JMoose. said...

Civil disobedience is wrong.
Argue the validity of this statement. Remember to use logic and reason, not emotions.


Civil disobedience is not always wrong. If there is a monarchy that decrees a law that is completely far out or someone feels shouldn't be a law, they can fight it. Throughout history people have disagreed with each other because no one is perfect and nothing is perfect. People have protested wars, laws, and rights. Just because its a disagreement doesn't always make it wrong. However disobey common logic like not coming to a stop at a red light is wrong. Civil disobedience is right when a government makes some outrageous law but it is wrong when the situation is stealing your neighbor's lawn mower. Disobeying laws and values can be good and bad.

Autumn Raiyne said...

Civil disobedience is wrong in some cases yet not in others. The government issues rules like the king issues edicts. As citizens, we are expected to follow these rules although not everyone feels this. The government, as much as they would like to hide it, is made up of humans; naive, problematic, and biased human beings. In the play, Antigone buries her brother against the king's edict, thus causing civil disobedience on her part. While what she did could seem right, perhaps in this day and age someone with a similar problem would choose to not face it based on fear of the unknown. We should all follow rules such as not killing anyone, not stealing, no drunk driving, and no running naked through the street. Most of those crimes would endanger someone else's life except maybe the last one unless it really scared someone who had a heart condition.
Antigone buried her brother against what the king decreed as illegal. Due to the king, everyone was now in fear, especially Ismene for she knew what Antigone planned to do and she feared for her sister's life. The fear was not in response to the act of her brother getting a burial but towards the king who could do what he pleased to her sister.